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FinalTable
08-07-2009, 12:42 AM
So I switch to playing some limit poker. I played on Full Tilt and A.P. I couldn't do the micro so I played .05/.10 with 9 man table. With putting some pots up to $1 - $2. I did great starting off and then fell back a little and then gained more than what I and then fell again.

I got out of both tables with over a $1 on each. Most of my losses came from river action. Two pots where I lost .50 to $1.....I had the hand won pre flop and turn. With me continuing to rasie. Only for the other players to catch two on the river.

Any advice. It's hard to bet people off the pots in limit. People love to catch two pairs and flushes.
I will play again though. It was fun and I think I could do a little better than what I use to think.

What advice can you give me? What cards to bet on? I main betted on AA, AK, AK, QQ. I kept away from small pairs unlike i do in holdem.

I had one hand that I was glad that I folded. Here is a picture.


http://www.pokergob.com/file/pic/gallery/648_view.jpg



I folded here after raising my .02 WildAngle took the pot down with trip 4's. Noel Bay stayed in the hand to lose all of his money to Wild Angle.


Any suggestions while playing limit poker?

pokergobette
08-07-2009, 01:53 AM
Hiya FT!

I play mostly limit and mostly live but I am familiar with the online games. At 2c/4c it is extremely difficult to protect your core hands but you can win. Just be aware of the general fact that a "good" limit hold'em player will win any where between one and two big bets a hour. At this level that will translate to 4c to 8c per hour. Now at the micro-levels you may get paid off even more because generally the players are weaker and you'll get more over calls.

You should continue to raise your core starting hands. This list doesn't really differ from NLH. Let me know if you are unsure of what those hands should be. You can also read about limit hold'em strategy (http://www.pokergob.com/forums/showthread.php?t=618&highlight=limit) here in some older threads.

In regards to the hand you included in this post, I would have check called the flop - seeing as there were four players in this raised pot and I was holding the :kd:. Depending on the turn card, :ad: or another :ks:, I would have check called again - any other card and I would have check folded.

My one super limit hold'em tip is pre-flop hand selection. It has to be much stronger in limit hold'em as opposed to NLH. See Dacooler's thread here (http://www.pokergob.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1309) about my thoughts pre-flop hand selection and strategy. As unusual as it sounds pot odds do play a significant part of limit hold'em but sometimes even with the right odds you may still elect to fold. Check out this thread (http://www.pokergob.com/forums/showthread.php?t=622&highlight=limit) for an anecdotal account on calculating odds and playing draws.

It's great to see that you've taken this step into the money games. Limit hold'em can be a grind but patience is the key as you are unlikely to win over the top pots with an obvious draw coming down on the river. On the flip side, you can make those calls on the river with one pair without the fear of being all-in.

This is all just a general starting point because there are so many more nuances to the game. I'm sure that our other members will come in with more tips and advice.

PokerGob
08-07-2009, 02:18 AM
The game of Limit Texas Hold'em is so intricate don't let the fixed amount of bets fool you. The skill sets necessary to be a Limit Hold'em Player are much different than No Limit Hold'em.

In Limit Hold'em you can successfully value bet weaker hands and draw easier. At these low levels there is no bluffing. As you get higher in level there are times to pull off semi bluffs, but for now I would just forget it.

A Simple Limit Hold'em Strategy is playing:

:as::ah: :ks::kh:

:qs::qh: :js::jh:

:ts::th: :9s::9h:

:8s::8h: :7s::7h:

:as::kh: :ad::qh:

from any position.


Only play drawing hands like:

:as::5s: :jc::tc:

:8h::7h: :tc::9c:

and other suited connectors in the hi-jack, cutoff, or button if you think more than four will see a flop (that means 4+you = 5).

Don't be a blind protector which means fold the small and big blind most of the time to raises and be careful of weak trap hands in the blinds. I usually fold my small blind whenever possible. Saving bets by folding when you think you're beat and raising less pre flop are ways to protect your stack. I would generally raise Jacks or better from any position. A continuation bet after the flop is not always mandatory. Fold KJ off it is a rookie hand, especially don't call raises with it. When playing suited Aces like A5 suited, your playing for flush, straight, two pair or trips, NOT YOUR ACE.

This is pretty basic info but a good foundation, keep on playing and don't expect to break the bank when you play each time at low levels. Be happy with small wins and grind it out.

mannyfest
08-07-2009, 04:05 AM
I would say patience man. Bad beats in LH aren't really like bad beats in NLHE. In LH when people make mistakes with their pre flop selection of cards they can't make it up as easily after a a flop because there is less money in the pot to compensate. At lower levels because people generally don't fold and there are usually more people going to a flop than there really should be, bad pre flop selection hurts them still but effects them a little less.

This means that when you play Micro Limit Hold'em you can't get in the habit of relying on over-calls or lot's of people in the pot to make a hand worthwhile. I think you really have to have an understanding of pot odds and a great ability to read a person's range of hands well because you're trying to make small edges as opposed to big edges. I also think that the art of checking in Limit is much more pronounced then it is in NL, it can help you maneuver through boards cheaply, if in fact your hand doesn't develop right, it's okay to fold, you're less likely to have pot committed yourself.