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FinalTable
08-27-2009, 11:58 AM
I went above my comfort level and jumped into a limit .25/.50 game on D.R. 8 people seated including my self. First hand at the table for me and I'm on the BB.

I didn't really see any hands before this one and I was delt right in when I joined the table.

I brought in $10 and I'm the lowest stack by far. Stack rang from $30 to $75 with one person having $300.

First person in early position calls .50 and everyone else folds including the SB of .25 I'm BB of .50 here is my hand :ks::6h::3h::5d: and I check it to the flop.

The flop comes and it is :8d::4c::7s: My other opponent chip stack is at $305

What is my next move and why?

PokerGob
08-27-2009, 05:24 PM
Omaha is different than Hold'em in that one may be betting draws rather than calling draws. There is no way to really tell what anyone has because it is your first hand and you probably haven't had time to put anyone on a range of cards.

So your first move here would be to bet. It will be the only way you can start to determine what people have. I can assure you that this hand is going to get beat, it is the kiss of death to flop a straight in Omaha. But truthfully you have to get your money in with the best hand when you have it and fold or at the very most try to put less money in when you think you've been beat.

Unfortunately there are a lot of turn cards here that beat you and it could be "redraw heaven" too. I won't be surprised by any beat here. If you get raised after a flop bet, I like a flat call to see what the turn brings. Keep the hand controlled because there are two more streets.

FinalTable
08-27-2009, 10:59 PM
So I'm thinking that I should like you said Gob, to lead out a bet, but what? Being limit poker I can only raise so much and be considered so much of a threat to someone who has $300 in chips compared to my $10.

With $1.25 in the pot, I bet out $1.25. I made an honest pot bet on my flopped straight.
I expected just a flat called but should I have been surprised when the guy with $300 re-raises me $5.00!!!

At this point out of my $10 I have $2.50 invested and thinking about getting out here.

What's my next move here? Call or jump ship?

Well Gob as you answered you wanted to see a flat call here to see what the turn would bring!

I put the guy on a high pair. With re-raising me $5.00 I thought about it for a moment but still didn't think clearly enough.

I was a little to eager with my flopped straight and fired back a re-raise as much as I could of $8.75.
Of course I get an insta re-raise for my last .25. So of course I called.

I was right about his high pair of QQ but even trips are no sweat for my straight. What I didn't consider was his two pair.

l_b_rex
08-27-2009, 11:16 PM
Considering you only brough $10 I say check and fold then go play another game but if losing $10 won't hurt your bankroll than I say raise it as much as you can then after the turn you put the rest in. It is all or nothing. You're hand isn't terrible. I think you will win this hand. There are no flush draws. I think you should go ahead and raise the whole hand til all $10 is in and cross your fingers. I think if you lose it will be to a bigger straight.

PokerGob
08-28-2009, 12:14 AM
I thought this was limit not pot limit, as the post says and this does influence my decision and my prior response.

Once you bet and get raised you are playing for all your chips because just calling isn't an option because you bet pot. In Pot Limit you can lose control of a pot very quickly. You can say, "I didn't enter this pot on my will, I was the forced bet; therefore it is not my spot, I fold"

Or you can go in with what could be the "best hand" at the moment and hope it holds up, you could be splitting and they could have a redraw to a better hand where you can't improve, you've "shot your load" so to speak.

You could fold here and say, "frig it" and by the way a pot size bet isn't the best bet on the flop, maybe half is better.

FinalTable
08-28-2009, 07:34 AM
First sorry that I screwed up this post. It really was a train wreck from the beginning. It was pot limit.

In this hand the other ;player has $300 in chips compared to my $10. So I know there is know way to scare him off with any bet unless he has absolutely nothing. I expected him to come over the top of me with a re-raise. How ever if I just flat called that and nothing comes up for him on the turn. Is my next pot bet enough to scare this guy away.

I was looking at this hand as this guy was trying to either scare me off by re-raising me half my money or was banking $5 on his two pair, and hoping to draw a full house or trips.

Either way here is the picture from the hand.


http://www.pokergob.com/file/pic/gallery/685_view.jpg


So I guess by your responses here that I played this hand a little foolishly and that I got lucky? no

l_b_rex
08-28-2009, 11:54 AM
I think you could've minimized your risk by betting pot size after the flop. He might've folded which in this case is a very good way to take the pot. I didn't like that there was a possibility for him to have a higher straight. I see many low straights lose. I think you had some good fortune but you got the job done.