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FinalTable
10-19-2009, 11:56 PM
So I have been sitting down at a .25/.50 limit table for a while. Long enough to have watch this guy, (that I'm about to talk about) call a lot of hands and go to the river with nothing or just a pair. I watch him for about 2 rounds of betting at a 9 man table. He might of won a hand or two after being in almost every hand of two rounds.

On to the hand that we were both in. We will call him player H.

So in this hand player H is sitting with $106 and on the BB. I have $50 and sitting in last mid position. My hole cards are :9c::9h:. Every one folds before me. I call .50 and everyone behind me folds to the BB, (player H) who raises to $1. I take a few seconds and put him on A low kicker, at best. I've seen H call and raise with so much crap already.

Flop comes and shows :6s::2c::8d:. Bet is to me and I bet out .50 and get a re-raise to a $1. Even with his re-raise, I'm not feeling he has a high pair. I call the .50


Flop :6s::2c::8d: and turn is :tc:. I'm still feeling good against this guy and I bet out again this time $1 and laugh at the $1 re-raise back. I know this guy doesn't have a 10. I call the $1 and off to the river.

Flop and turn :6s::2c::8d::tc: and the river is a :ad:, and now I'm saying crap! Just what this guy needs. I wait 2 to 3 seconds and check. Now I know that checking here might not be the right move, and I'm know another raise is coming. Sure enough H fires another $1. I've been in this position before and I know people do this. They bet all the way to the river hoping to hit and Ace. My time goes down. I call the $1 at the last second.

My cards :9c::9h:

Community Cards :6s::2c::8d::tc::ad:

H's cards :kh::4s:

I won the hand because I was playing a chaser who didn't catch anything. Did I play my cards right? Would you have folded this hand long before?

PokerGob
10-20-2009, 05:34 AM
Was this a nine or ten man table or short handed six-man?

Were you on the BB or SB? Because you would have been calling on the river not check-calling.

Anyway, the beauty of limit is that for one bet on the river in a pot where you have already put three bets in heads up, you sadly almost have to make this call after the way the hand plays out and if you seen this player playing recklessly and trying to bluff at the river you had enough in the pot to protect by calling the single bet. I hate having to call here, but under the circumstances you played it right.

If you had checked the turn and they bet out on the river, you could fold, because there would not be enough in the pot. This players check raise on the flop could have been an attempt to buy the turn. If you felt you had the best hand on the turn, it is time to ram and jam, and then most likely you wouldn't be facing that same call on the river, you could just use your position to check behind them, because I'm almost sure they wouldn't be inclined to bet into you on the river, you would have pot committed yourself and they should know that you aren't folding.

In limit you are always looking to maximize your turn bets because that is where you make the money. If they had a weak ace, that sucks, but SO BE IT!

Remember the more you raise on the turn when you are ahead, the more you will win in fixed limit hold'em, it's almost that simple. In Limit you’re generally trying to represen the best hand on the turn and anyone who is in on the river should usually have enough to call you.

One other things, I do like limping with 99 sometimes and if you were in late middle position you might be looking to be in a pot with as little players as possible, it would be unlikely you would be raised, but this player seemed like a maniac, who knows. This may have been a good opportunity to raise pre flop, but it is not always the best play, it all depends on how loose or tight the players are to act behind you and your image before you are ready to raise or limp.

You entitled this thread "calling someone down" the only time you called was on the river, you bet when you were supposed to and played the hand well, the only thing is I would have liked is a three bet on the turn if you felt you were best.

FinalTable
10-20-2009, 07:12 PM
I watch him for about 2 rounds of betting at a 9 man table. He might of won a hand or two after being in almost every hand of two rounds.

On to the hand that we were both in. We will call him player H.

So in this hand player H is sitting with $106 and on the BB. I have $50 and sitting in last mid position.



Was this a nine or ten man table or short handed six-man?

Were you on the BB or SB? Because you would have been calling on the river not check-calling.


So I was always the first to act. I also knew that if I raised the pot, that I was going to get re-raised no matter what, with nothing.

The only thing that scared me was the Ace on the river. I checked here for two reasons. 1) I was expecting another raise on the river because player H had bet or raised every street. 2) I was only willing to pay another $1 to see if player H had an Ace. So If I bet a $1 and H re-raises me a $1, then I'm paying $2.

So I played it safe to only have to pay a $1 to see an Ace. Then it turns out he checks too and shows K high.

Should I have still bet on the river? I have been in this situation before, and raised on the river when an Ace showed up. Only to get re-raised and having to pay double to see that my opponent got a lucky Ace draw on the river.

But than again, "So be it" huh?

PokerGob
10-20-2009, 07:53 PM
On to the hand that we were both in. We will call him player H. So in this hand player H is sitting with $106 and on the BB. I have $50 and sitting in last mid position.

Please clarify the above as this may change my initial reply. In the scenario provided, it would mean you are always acting after your opponent except before the flop.

:) Some friendly advice to all posters, when explaining strategy it is somewhat colloquial to call the player that you were playing against "Villain" and you are "Hero." If there are more than two players against you, they are: villain1, villain2 (V1,V2), but it's okay anyway a person chooses to name the protagonists of their poker strategy story. :)