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PokerGob
03-23-2010, 04:40 PM
The term "suited" refers to matching suits held in your starting hand.

For example, holding :8h: :4h: or :qc: :6c: in Hold'em are examples of "suited" starting hands.

You will be dealt suited cards about 24% of the time. Suited cards don't make your hand that much stronger and generally give you about a 3% edge over the same hand if it is not suited. Some players play suited cards habitually or religiously and generally don't understand how hard it is to make a winning flush hand with them. You will flop a flush draw in your suit about 8% of the time and you will make the flush by the river in this scenario approximately 35% of the time.

It gets a little confusing, but the point is just because "they're suited" doesn't mean they're instantly playable.

Xxskilled2ownxX
03-23-2010, 04:58 PM
I see people play suited cards like there gold.. If your going to play suited cards, its always best to play suited,connected cards. As gob stated there is only a minimal chance of catching a flush.. If you play suited cards, that are connectables your winning percentage will go up modestly.. When you play suited hands.. you will lose more money or chips chasing out these hands, than winning. Poker is about winning and maintaining your stack.. These are set up cards that can either make or break you. An ideal suited connected starter is as such:ts::9s:..:as::qs:..:as::js:...:9s::7s:...:5s: :7s:.. If your gonna play suited cards play the suited cards that give you the best probabilty of winning.. Good post gob.

PairPressure
03-24-2010, 09:31 AM
You can also play suited connectors strongly if you're in position.

Position is your friend when it comes to playing spec hands.

This if you flop a monster you can control the action.

I mean seriously, why play a hand like 45 of spades when you're first to act on the flop?

kentucky_jim
03-24-2010, 03:01 PM
You can also play suited connectors strongly if you're in position.

Position is your friend when it comes to playing spec hands.

This if you flop a monster you can control the action.

I mean seriously, why play a hand like 45 of spades when you're first to act on the flop?

Good stuff here you read my mind!!

PokerGob
03-24-2010, 04:23 PM
I mean seriously, why play a hand like 45 of spades when you're first to act on the flop?

:) So I can "draw" to bottom two pair and crush aces! Just kidding, position is key to playing suited hands, and a hand like :jh: :2h: is junk and just as bad as :jc: :2h: in or out of position. This is a perfect example of how bad suited cards look and really are, suited is not enough to play them.

Dacooler
03-24-2010, 04:44 PM
First I think that suited cards need to be looked at differently. I see different posts some give an example of suited connectors such as :9h::th:, two sequential cards of the same suit. Others posts..suited gappers :5s::7s:. Another references suited crap. There is also suited gappers and connectors that are also considered sometimes to be a good top starting hand ie :qs::ks: etc.

I think it is important to differentiate between the different hands. In doing so you have a better idea where you stand pre and post flop.

Gob gave a good example of suited crap and the perils that go with it.

Suited connectors in my opinion are a little more transparent in a players hand as it is played alot by alot of players and is easier to spot on the flop and the action on it.

Suited Gappers offer a little more stealth and are not easily spotted and therefore can bring in some cases bigger rewards.

Suited royals (so to speak) have a bigger advantage then just any "small" suited cards. Due to possible high pairs overs etc.



I think that if you play these hands and catch a piece of the flop vs. the monster hand, odds should be employed at this point to determine if you are willing to "chase" (flush's and str8's). Do not feel obligated to continue on what is most likely the weak hand. Fold if you don't connect your monster. If you catch small pair remember it is just that. You want the flush...str8 etc. anything else is just weak!

Position is very very important so one question goes to jim and pairpressure. If you are playing suited connectors from position do you think that it is a good idea to raise the hand preflop vs limping in? If everyone folds to you? or if there are multiple limpers in already?

Also how do you think the different hands fair in a heads up situation??

FinalTable
03-28-2010, 06:13 PM
Position is very very important so one question goes to jim and pairpressure. If you are playing suited connectors from position do you think that it is a good idea to raise the hand preflop vs limping in? If everyone folds to you? or if there are multiple limpers in already?

Also how do you think the different hands fair in a heads up situation??


DaCooler brings up some good points here. For starters, In heads up play, I think anything goes. People will bluff with :6s::2s: or :kh::4h:. HU is really a different type of game. If I have enough chips, I'm probably folding any suited connectors below :jd::td:


As for playing in position, A small raise might be enough just to take down the pot, still expect a call and hope you hit your monster. I would hold off on a raise with suited connectors when last to act. Your chances of hitting the flop are slim and when you don't, your only option is to bluff. Are these good chances?

Garbage, garbage, garbage, and yet I see people play them all the time.